Madog and the discovery of America; Welsh Indians; etc.,

  • This material is held at
  • Reference
      GB 210 NLW MS 13104B.
  • Alternative Id.
      (alternative) vtls004988491
  • Dates of Creation
      [1767x1826] /
  • Name of Creator
  • Language of Material
      English, Welsh, Latin.
  • Physical Description
      270 pp. (p. 10 omitted; p. 72 appears twice; two pages between pp. 259 and 260 not numbered).
  • Location
      ARCH/MSS (GB0210)

Scope and Content

Miscellaneous papers and a ? note-book of Edward Williams ('Iolo Morganwg') bound together in one volume. The contents include pp. 28-62, an essay or article entitled 'Some Account of an Ancient Welsh Colony in America' containing an introductory section on the discovery of America by the Welsh prince, Madog, in the late twelfth century, and copious evidence collected by the writer from oral, manuscript, and printed sources concerning the existence in North America of 'Welsh Indians' who spoke the Welsh language (for Edward Williams's interest in Madog and the 'Welsh Indians' see David Williams: 'John Evans's Strange Journey', The American Historical Review, vol. LIV, Nos. 2-3, and The Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, 1948, pp. 105-46, and Richard Deacon: Madoc and the Discovery of America . . . (London, 1967 ), more particularly pp. 56-60, 131-6); 64-82, another 'version' of the aforementioned essay or article; 85-118, miscellaneous notes, extracts from printed sources, etc., relating largely to Madog, the Welsh Indians, and the Nootka area [? of Vancouver Island]; 119-29, a variant or draft version of the essay which, under the title 'A Short Review of the Present State of Welsh Manuscripts', appeared as the preface to The Myvyrian Archaiology of Wales . . . (London, 1801); 176, a list of bridges in Glamorganshire; 189-91, transcripts of series of rhyming sayings attributed to Taliesin ('Geiriau Gwir Taliesin', 'Cynghor Taliesin i Afaon ei fab'), a three-stanza English poem, and two 'englynion' attributed to Siôn Rhydderch; 199-200, extracts from the [ ] County Herald, 31 December 1796 and 7 January 1797, relating to the extreme cold in London and areas in Kent, etc.; 217 + 224, thirteen stanzas of a Welsh poem on Glamorganshire (? incomplete); 223, the first two stanzas of an incomplete Welsh poem ? on Monmouthshire; 225-33, a transcript of a 'Calendar of Flora' (January-October); 237 42 and possibly 243-52, notes on the philosophical and religious ideas of the British bards or druids; 253-4, further notes relating to the bardic or druidic order; 256-7, a copy of an eleven-point plan for establishing a colony of Welsh emigrants in America on land 'near the Mississippi between the Ohio and Illenois'; and 259, a sketch plan of 'the Hustings and Booths at the General Election, Com. Glam. 1820', drawn on the blank verso of a folded copy of a printed election pamphlet containing a letter, 7 March 1820, from 'Rhys ap Thomas' to Sir Christopher Cole, one of the candidates in the parliamentary election for the Glamorgan county seat. Also included are miscellaneous lists of Welsh words and other miscellanea, these in some instances being written on the blank verso or in the margins, etc., of copies of printed proposals for publishing Edward Williams's volumes of English verse Poems Lyric and Pastoral, copies of a printed circular dated 16 August 1820 in which Taliesin Williams appealed to Unitarian ministers to contribute towards the fund for completing the erection of a Unitarian chapel in Merthyr Tydfil, an autograph letter from Messrs. Johnson, Prichard, and Johnson, Bristol, to Mr. Hopkins, Bridgend, 1815 (a business appointment), and a transcript (probably not in the hand of Edward Williams) of an English poem by ? Thomas Redwood.

Note

Title based on contents.

Formerly known as Llanover C. 17.

Preferred citation: NLW MS 13104B.

Other Finding Aids

The description is also available in the Handlist of Manuscripts in the National Library of Wales, Volume IV (Aberystwyth, 1971).

Bibliography

For Edward Williams's interest in Madog and the 'Welsh Indians' see David Williams: 'John Evans's Strange Journey', The American Historical Review, vol. LIV, Nos. 2-3, and The Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion, 1948, pp. 105-46, and Richard Deacon: Madoc and the Discovery of America . . . (London, 1967 ), more particularly pp. 56-60, 131-6).

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